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Hoax or Truth; The final twist
Topic Started: Mar 2 2009, 11:42 PM (754 Views)
chairo	Mar 2 2009, 11:42 PM Post #1
Opinionated Posts: 5,733 Group: Admin Member #317 Joined: August 14, 2005	As I sit down to write this I have to say I am very conflicted. If not for all the rumors and spoilers that have ran rampant this past week I’d say wow what a truly romantic ending. But there were rumors and spoilers which nailed almost everything right on the head. So I have to ask myself, if most of the spoilers were true … is it possible they all were and that the Bachelor just attempted to pull off the biggest hoax ever in reality TV? The actual final show tonight was pretty typical of all the final shows in the past. Man takes the woman home to meet son and family. The women get grilled and the family declares they like them both. Last night dates also pretty run of the mill … sort of the ‘love the one you’re with’ thing. However, as Jason and Melissa’s final date began winding down there was a point where they sat on the couch and Melissa leaned over to hug Jason after proclaiming her love. He looked out over her shoulder and there was no love on his face. It was actually void of any emotion. One more reason to believe it was all a hoax. In his talks to the camera after each date Jason vowed he was falling in love with two women … something we seem to hear every year from the Bachelor or Bachelorette when it’s down to the final moments. I am sorry I don’t and never have bought into this. You might have deep feelings for two people or even more, but there is always one who you know you don’t want to live without. As the evening played out, I still kept hope that all the rumors were just that … rumors. Frankly I didn’t care and still don’t care who Jason chose to spend his life with (based on the odds it’s not going to last no matter which one he chooses) but I wanted it to be honest. I have no invested interest in Jason’s life and I don’t have the ability to choose who he should spend his life with because I am not the one who will have to live with that person. Having said that however, I love watching the show … I love investing my time in seeing the progression of the relationships and how the Bachelor(ette) come to the decisions they make. I like the cat fights and I like to see the most despicable ejected from the competition. However I don’t like anyone trying to con me into believing something is one way, when it isn’t. The rumors had a life of their own … they were denied and the producers said that nothing about the show is scripted or within their control as to outcome. However, as I mentioned earlier, if most of the rumors proved to be true then how can I not believe they are all true since they all apparently came from the same source. To remind those who have read them, or to put them before you for the first time, the rumors reported that Molly was Jason’s choice all along. The producers wanted things to go another way to create more drama so convinced Jason to propose to Melissa. During their time a part Melissa and Jason spent every other week together. On opposite weeks they flew Molly in to spend time with Jason without anyone else knowing. If this is true and Melissa was not part of this hoax then all I can say is shame on the producers and shame on Jason for putting her through this. If they were all part of it, then shame on all of them and I hope the show dies right here and now. It was a little strange to me during the After the Final Rose show how often Chris pointed out that this was all new. Melissa didn’t know she was going to be dumped and Molly didn’t know Jason wanted another shot at a relationship with her. AND where were the tears? When Jason broke up with Melissa on national television if she was really in love with him where were the tears? Where was the broken heart? Where was the anger? Oh she called him a bastard and told him not to contact her ever again, but it was without passion. If it were me and I was in love with someone and believed it was two sided I would have been so devastated by what happened that it wouldn’t have mattered who was watching. I’d have cried, I have lashed out and I’d probably have slapped him. But Melissa very nonchalantly removed the ring and held it out to him. If Jason was really feeling like a heel for breaking Melissa’s heart where were the tears that were so easy for him to shed throughout the season? As I said, I am conflicted. I liked Jason. I hated that DeAnna broke his heart … and her appearance was a non event as far as I am concerned. The hype was again, as far as I am concerned just a rating ploy. I wanted Jason to find the love of his life. I wanted him to have the fairy tale ending. NOW?! I am not so sure. I feel I have been had. On the other hand, if it was real, his reunion with Molly was fantastic. To get a second chance with the person you fell in love with IS the fairy tale. But there is just too much to try to swallow to know if it was real or not. Oh, I have no doubt Jason ended up with Molly, but I do have doubts that there was any truth at all revealed in the ATFR show. So in case I haven’t made it clear, Jason broke up with Melissa, supposedly without her knowing it was coming on national television. Then he gets back with Molly, again, supposedly unexpected, on national television. Was it really the biggest and best twist ending ever or was it the biggest hoax and the biggest lie ever? Maybe if all the rumors hadn’t revealed this a week ago I could sit here and say I am devastated for Melissa but totally thrilled that Jason and Molly finally found each other. I suppose none of us will really know the whole truth about what happened. Maybe it shouldn’t matter and we should just look at it as good drama with a fairy tale ending … but I just don’t know if I can do that. How can we celebrate what was done to Melissa even if this was all on the up and up? She was right when she said, he should have let her go at the final rose ceremony if he had so many doubts. OR what would have been wrong with Jason just walking away without proposing to either one of them until he knew for sure which one he really wanted to be with? Maybe that would have been a let down and the producers didn’t want another one of those under their belt … but it would have been more honest and it would have been less hurtful. The previews show on the Jimmy Kimmel Live show, that he tells Jason he hopes they end up married but he doesn’t think it will happen. It was probably said tongue in cheek, but look at the history of the Bachelor … Jimmy will probably turn out to be right. I’d like to finally see true love come out of the Bachelor, but the odds really are against it.
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Deleted User	Mar 3 2009, 12:14 AM Post #2
Deleted User	Great recap, Chairo. I can tell you that I can't remember the last time that I watched a solid hour of television absolutely glued to the set like I was during the AFTR. I don't believe that it was all a surprise to everyone, but I also just don't want to believe that it was completely planned by producers from the beginning of the season. I think that it was clear from the look on Melissa's face that she did not come on the show thinking that everything was great between them. Also, I don't think that this was news to Molly - the guy that you thought was going to propose to you dumped you but then said, "hey, maybe we could get coffee together and start talking or something" and you're like ok, cool? I don't buy it. I'm really disappointed in the whole thing. I don't care what sort of obligation Jason felt to ABC, he didn't have to propose. Also, nobody could force him to stage the break-up on tv rather than breaking up and then appearing with Melissa to reveal the break-up. The whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth.
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chairo	Mar 3 2009, 12:18 AM Post #3
Opinionated Posts: 5,733 Group: Admin Member #317 Joined: August 14, 2005	Another very telling event in ATFR, was that supposedly after not seeing each other for a little while, and supposedly, on Melissa's part knowing nothing about what was about to happen, she didn't even try to kiss Jason when she walked in. I have NEVER seen that happen on the ATFR show yet. The two usally greet each other with a kiss. Now, Jason may not have wanted a kiss, BUT Melissa wasn't supposed to have known that ... so why didn't she run in and kiss him? Burning questions without answers
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Deleted User	Mar 3 2009, 12:20 AM Post #4
Deleted User	Excellent, excellent point. She was chilly from the moment she walked in.
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chairo	Mar 3 2009, 01:23 AM Post #5
Opinionated Posts: 5,733 Group: Admin Member #317 Joined: August 14, 2005	To be fair, I watched Jimmy Kimmel Live with Jason. He explained that at the time of the After the final Rose show Melissa KNEW they were no longer together. His contract with the show stated that anything to do with the show and the relationships had to be done ON CAMERA ... so Melissa knew what was going to happen .... now this in and of itself produces additional questions. IF Melissa knew, then why did Chris make such a point of getting Jason to say that Melissa did NOT know he was going to break it off with her on live television? I think this whole thing is so embedded with lies that everytime someone speaks it just deepens the deception. Melissa couldn't have been both in the dark about what was about to happen and know what was going to happen. Jason said they had even discussed whether or not she should wear the ring on the show ... to me that says, at least according to Jason, she knew what was going to happen. So Chris was pulling lies from Jason during the show ... as I said it can't be both ways. Jason said that he is not engaged to Molly. They are taking things slow and just seeing where it goes. He also said at the time he proposed to Melissa he really did love both of them but from the moment he saw Melissa she was everything he was looking for in looks, personality and the whole package. In the mean time he got to know and fell hard for Molly. He says maybe he shouldn't have proposed to Melissa but at the time he did it, he believed that was what he wanted ... so again I ask, why all the tears when he sent Molly away? I feel we have been jerked around. Probably not so much by Jason as by the producers of the show. Jason said he is willing to take abuse for what happened with Melissa, but I am now beginning to think Jason had no choice in what happened. I suppose he could have walked away from all of it but is it possible the show could have sued him for breaking the contract? I just don't know. Again, I doubt we ever will, at least not anytime soon. Kimmel asked Jason if there were more surprises to come tomorrow night and Jason said no. Kimmel also asked the same question I did .. why did Jason propose when he was so conflicted. Jason said at that moment in time he believed it was what he wanted. He said getting out in the real world Melissa changed. What had come easy on the show became hard. The great talks they had became difficult. He said the chemistry just wasn't there with her outside of the show. He said she was very aware of that fact too. Kimmel did ask Jason if he had seen Molly at all during the time he was with Melissa and said no. Something didn't feel right about that answer. He either rushed it out or hesitated or something that just made me feel that wasn't the honest truth. Well it will be intersting to see what they try to sell us on ATFR part two
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chairo	Mar 3 2009, 10:55 AM Post #6
Opinionated Posts: 5,733 Group: Admin Member #317 Joined: August 14, 2005	OK folks I believe in giving the devil his due so there is a link to Chris Harrison's latest blog on Entertainment Weekly at the end of this post. I have read it and a lot of what he says makes sense. I can see his version playing out the way he said. I suppose my real concern is how someone else ... not involved in the production or the show, nor knows any of the participants had all this information more than a week ago and presented it in quite a different light. Two different things can make either one true. The blogger who spilled the beans was a huge Melissa fan, some how got a hold of the information. (Hasn't after the final rose been live in the past? Don't know for sure but it would make a difference). Harrison and crew are now doing their best damage control to keep the integrity of the show alive. The blogger presented the facts as he knew them before the show ending had been aired. Everything he reported took place as he said it would. In this version, the show, Jason and anyone else involved are cads. The second option is that somehow the blogger got a hold of the information and without knowing the details reported what he believed to be true...everything actually happened on the show as he reported ... BUT you now have to wonder: he knew the show details but not the facts behind the outcome so he put his own spin on things in order to ruin it for everyone else. In this option the shows integrity remains intact, and it all happened as Chris reports in his blog. I will have to say almost 95 percent of all the blogs, responses, reports, and articles in magazines .... lean to the side of the blogger. Jason and the show have become evil personified. Melissa is portrayed as the most wounded woman in the world. America is turning their backs on their favorite son Jason and feel he doesn't deserve happiness after what he put Mellissa through. Let me tell you where I am at now PERSONALLY, after reading Chris' blog. I am leaning towards believing his report on what went down. I said before I don't believe you can really be in love with two people at once, but I do believe you can believe you are for various reasons. The fact is we all have a 'type' and that is what we tend to fall for. From Jason's own mouth Melissa was his 'perfect type' and so falling for her was easy. She covered all the bases of his desires. The looks, the personality, everything. Others have said she is very much like his exwife and DeAnna. Then along comes Molly. She does not fall into his "type." She doesn't have the looks of his type and she doesn't have the personality of his type. But he discovers he is falling for her anyway. She has something he never knew he found attractive. He loved her eyes from day one. They continued through the show to build a relationship, but there was always Melissa lurking in his mind and heart. I don't think Jason is a good actor ... I think his emotional conflicts were very real. So he comes down to having to make the final decision .. which woman is he going to choose. I think at that point because he had strong feelings for both women he chose what he knew ... what had always satisfied him in the past, but also the thing that never worked out for him. He chose Melissa, because she is the woman he always chooses. I don't think he expected to feel such heartache at sending Molly away. I don't remember any bachelor or bachelorette breaking down like that over sending the runner up home ... usually by this time they have already made their decision and know they made the one right for them ... apparently that was not the case with Jason. So they move into the real world, spend time with each other and Jason can see that this relationship is probably heading down the same path as all his other 'type' romances have lead. He is also still thinking about Molly, and whether because she can sense his continuing internal conflict or because it's just her personality, Melissa begins to retreat from him. Not physically but emotionally. Their communications, the one thing Jason loved about her, become uneasy and flow hard, and all the time Molly is still in Jason's head and obviously his heart. So he finally makes the right decision. He knows this is not working with Melissa because he can't get over Molly. As Kimmel suggested ... would it have been better for his image to marry Melissa knowing it wouldn't last, or was he finally making the right decision and sparing them both more heartache down the road, and perhaps subjecting his son to another inevitable divorce? We all like to witness the fairy tale ending because we can live though it vicariously. But if we are now honest with ourselves, the real fairy tale ending is Molly and Jason ... at least at this point in time. Which version of what transpired is the true one ... well maybe at this point it doesn't really matter. As Chris said, neither he nor anyone else can force someone to love another person. Our hearts want what our hearts want. In this case Jason wanted Molly after the fact. Actually I think he wanted her before he made his wrong decision but was too afraid of failure to go outside of what he had always chosen in the past. I still believed we have been conned to an extent. I do believe Melissa knew about the breakup and that Molly knew Jason wanted her back .. reactions during After the Final Rose sort of bear this out. But maybe everyone was just trying to make the best of a bad situation. To get out of it with the least amount of damage to the credibility of the show and to Jason personally. A person doesn't change from a warm loving kind person, as we have all known Jason to be, into a heartless cad. He made a mistake, he did his best to fix it without hurting Melissa too badly. The only happiness Jason has had in his life is his son. I will not begrudge him happiness with Molly if that is truly what they both want. Here is the promised link .. read it and decide for yourselves -- you may have to copy and paste it into your address bar if clicking on it doesn't work. http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/03/chris-harrison.html#comment-150350919
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Deleted User	Mar 3 2009, 07:34 PM Post #7
Deleted User	I have been doing a lot of reading on this too after I watched last night. I'm not sure that I believe all of the conspiracy theories, but there is something about Chris Harrison's blog that bugs me - when I read it this morning, there was a part where he said that Melissa was not surprised by what happened, but then he mentions that she came on the show (ATFR) expecting to talk about the wedding date. Then he said that she was the innocent little lamb that people are making her out to be. That didn't make sense. Now, I just went back to his blog to get the exact quote to put here and it's gone. There was also a comment that criticized his calling her an "innocent lamb" in a way that seemed rude and that comment is gone too. I did manage to find out that ATFR is usually taped a week before the finale was aired, but this one was taped in January after Jason let the producers know what he was feeling. I can't imagine that Melissa really thought that everything was perfect between them up until the taping, but I think that there must have been better ways for it to be handled. As for Jason and Molly seeing or not seeing each other in the interim? I seriously doubt it. I just didn't see anything about her answers or actions last night that would indicate that's how things went down. At the end of the day, I'm disappointed in Jason. I think that he should have taken his dating show to VH1.
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chairo	Mar 3 2009, 09:41 PM Post #8
Opinionated Posts: 5,733 Group: Admin Member #317 Joined: August 14, 2005	Well they are going to try to explain everything tonight. I am still undecided though I am leaning more towards Chris' explanation on a lot of the stuff ... just not all of it. It would so dangerous for them to have plotted and planned all of this...they'd lose all credibility, but as it stands most people believe it was staged anyway. Even the AP service picked up on this and Jason has become one of the most hated men in America
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Deleted User	Mar 3 2009, 11:21 PM Post #9
Deleted User	Well, it seems to me that tonight's show was just a rehashing of what we've seen before. (I watched it in about 20 minutes because I fast-forwarded through all of the 'flashbacks') I can't say that I'm satisfied with the answers they gave, but I will be tuning in to see Jillian's season as The Bachelorette.
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chairo	Mar 4 2009, 06:51 AM Post #10
Opinionated Posts: 5,733 Group: Admin Member #317 Joined: August 14, 2005	I watched ATFR part 2 with great hope that there would be some difinitive answers. Unfortunately that didn't happen. All we did discover is of the six other women sitting there from this season only Nikki and Stephanie that Jason did the right thing. Erica and Naomi thought it was wrong ... with exceptions. They did feel it was best Jason didn't continue with Melissa if his heart belonged to someone else. The audience was 3-2 against Jason. At this point, if Jason and Molly want to make this work, then I wish them the best. They have admitted to being bombarded with negative feelings from almost everyone. They both stated if this wasn't the right thing for them they would not be putting themselves through all of this. Admittedly the appeared to be happy. At first it seemed a little strained and Jason actually seemed to be leaning away from Molly, which body experts would say meant he didn't want to be with her. However, for most of the time they were on the stage together they did seem very much in love. How this will play out and whether we will see this season end in a wedding remains to be seen. Once again I don't believe we will ever know the whole truth unless these two break up and one spills the beans. They had announced Melissa would also be on hand but all we got was a brief message about moving on and having no regrets, which was read by Chris. The seaons over, and knowing the attention span of the American public this will be forgotten by the time the next reality series begins. As expected Jillian was announced to be the next Bachelorette. Sorry Jillian lovers but I am disapointed. I'd have rather seen the spot go to Stephanie. Jillian is just a little cold for my liking. So until next season, be kind in your thoughts about Jason ... if there was any thing done that was not kosher, it was not on Jason's part. He was under contract and was required to do what he was told ... how ever intrusive that might have been. Or maybe Chris was right, and it just played itself out with no interference at all. Either way, after all they have subjected themselves to I hope Jason and Molly really do find the fairy tale. One little side not here ... did anyone notice how often Jason referred to Molly as his 'best friend?' If I remember correctly that is the exact reason he sent Jillian home ... she was looking for a best friend and he wanted more ... maybe now he understands the concept of wanting the person you are with to also be your best friend.
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funnygirl	Mar 4 2009, 10:34 AM Post #11
Easin' into summertime... Posts: 3,720 Group: Admin Member #109 Joined: April 25, 2005	I have not watched this season, but I have kept up with Chris Harrison's blog and I believe him 110%. He's absolutely accurate when he says that real human reaction is better than anythign they could script. Also, with a situation like this, how would you have handled this situation as a television producer? Lik it or not, folks seem to love the drama and as long as editors/producers or even hosts see this as an opportunity for water cooler fodder, they are going to jump all over it. It's like the Danny Gokey (American Idol contestant) situation with his deceased wife. He's not bringing her into the forefront, Idol is. What would you think if one of your friends met and dated a couple of women simultaneously, decided that he wanted to be monogamous, realized he chose the wrong woman for him and broke up with her so he could pursue the other? You would probably support your friend and give him mad props for being up front and adult about the situation. As far as what happened when and to whom? The world may never know because 60% of the taped footage ends up on the cutting room floor. Reactions you see were to different situations than what you saw and the looping that happens on this show in particular is ridiculous. Just my humble opinion.
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chairo	Mar 4 2009, 11:59 AM Post #12
Opinionated Posts: 5,733 Group: Admin Member #317 Joined: August 14, 2005	From the OMG website LOS ANGELES, Calif. -- As the fallout from ABC's surprising "Bachelor" finale continues, Access Hollywood has uncovered personal e-mails between Jason Mesnick and Melissa Rycroft, Mesnick's reality show fiancee who he dumped on national TV. In the first of several e-mails uncovered by Access, Melissa expressed her frustration to Jason following the taping of the "After the Rose" special (taped in mid January), which saw Jason break off his engagement with Melissa and opt for a second chance at love with the previously dumped Molly Malaney. And while Jason's change of heart might have been a shock to viewers, it appears Melissa may have seen it coming. "Last night didn't go NEAR how I thought... I still can't believe how you can't give reasons other than 'It changed.'... You know as well as I do that you didn't give 100% to me or the relationship. And I don't understand how you can walk away form something without giving it your all," she wrote in the e-mail dated January 19, 2009. "But I am walking away knowing I did." In her initial e-mail after the taping, it seems Melissa already also had a good idea about Jason's feelings for Molly prior to Jason's TV confession. "And getting confirmation about Molly in front of people like that was a complete classless move if you ask me - how could you do that to me after I repeatedly asked you about it? I'm not stupid, I knew about Molly... and you lied to me about it," she wrote. "I can't even tell you how much respect I lost for you... but it makes this whole process from here on out much easier for me." In an interview with People following Monday's finale, Jason insisted he had no choice in how the situation played out, claiming it was "part of the deal" in his contract - a sentiment echoed in his reply e-mail to Melissa. "The producers had a lot to do with it. I am so sorry. This is so horrible," Jason wrote. Yet, Melissa didn't seem to be buying her former fiance's reasoning. "You are a grown man and perfectly capable of making your own decisions," she replied in a subsequent e-mail. "Own your actions and stop blaming this process." In a later e-mail, dated January 21, 2009, Jason answered Melissa's note, even going as far as to say he had suffered karmic retribution for calling off the engagement. "You don't deserve any of it at all. I wish there were more that I could say. I want to take all of your pain away and put it on me," he replied. "If you are talking about Karma, I slipped and fell and had a huge gash in my leg 3 inches wide and to the bone. I deserve so much worse for what I am doing to you." And in the final e-mail uncovered by Access between the two, also dated January 21, Melissa harkened back to Jason being dumped by "Bachelorette" DeAnna Pappas prior to his run as the "Bachelor." "I do think it's a little ironic that you kept telling me, 'Morally, how could I ever get back with DeAnna after what she did to me?' And I agree... just seems like a very similar situation with your new lady... Just a little irony I guess," Melissa wrote. "Seeing the person that you became, you are right: a relationship between you and I would never work out... I'm not mad... I'm not hurt - seeing how things were handled helped me get over things quickly. "I do wish you both the best though. Take care," Melissa wrote. Here is the link to the article: http://omg.yahoo.com/news/bachelor-finale-fallout-melissa-jasons-e-mail-conversation-revealed/19568?nc
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chairo	Mar 4 2009, 12:06 PM Post #13
Opinionated Posts: 5,733 Group: Admin Member #317 Joined: August 14, 2005	In away I too believe Jason is putting a lot of the blame for what happened on to the show itself and his contract with them. However, it seems to me if he had any feelings for Melissa at all, he would have made everything clear before the show. He owed her that much. It does appear Melissa did know Jason wanted out, but not why, though from the above emails, she suspected it was Molly. This leads to the question: WHY did she suspect Molly IF Jason hadn't mentioned her nor as he says talked to her ... I honestly don't know how much I believe and how much I doubt at this point. If nothing else came of all of this it gave The Bachelor some of it's bigger ratings ever and has seen it receive vast amounts of internet coverage and mention in many many magazines. They couldn't have scripted a better ending for the publicity the show has received. I like Chris .... I think he dealt the best he could to save face for everyone, but I do not for one minute believe he was as much in the dark as he claimed. Once enlightened, I do believe there were better ways to 'save face' than the path that was taken. The viewing hate Jason and think he is horrible. Molly has received vicious comments WHICH if even a little of what has been said about Molly being in the dark is true, then she doesn't deserve this. I honestly with them the best but I don't see how any relationship can survive this. Relationships are hard enough ... but dealing with that and the hate coming from America ... those are big obstacles.
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chairo	Mar 4 2009, 01:42 PM Post #14
Opinionated Posts: 5,733 Group: Admin Member #317 Joined: August 14, 2005	Once again from OMG, it appears Chris appears on Ellen's show and dishes a little more dirt about what went down. Here are a few quotes: "Don't shed too many tears for Melissa Rycroft, whom Jason Mesnick famously dumped on Monday's Bachelor finale for runner-up Molly Malaney." "Melissa wasn't completely blind-sided," Bachelor host Chris Harrison says on Wednesday's Ellen DeGeneres Show. "She knew something ... she knew something was going on. And she had a hint -- a woman's intuitions, whatever -- it might have been about Molly. They came on the show because we felt we needed to show this. We need to show the country what's happened." So we thought, 'How do we show America what really happened?' So we chose, six weeks ago, to shoot this special that you saw on Monday night," he said. "And, what you saw last night, is what obviously what's happened in the six weeks since." Harrison added that Molly is probably aware of Mesnick's fickle ways. Says the host, "Surely, it has to be in the back of her mind." From this it appears Bachelor/Chris is going to put this all at Jason's feet. I realize we only know as much about Jason as was revealed on the Bachelor. We also know Jason deliberately let people come to the conclusion his wife had abandoned him and their son ... not true, since it was revealed he MUST live in Seattle because he and his ex have shared custody. Is Jason a wolf in sheeps clothing? It all makes you go mmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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funnygirl	Mar 4 2009, 05:40 PM Post #15
Easin' into summertime... Posts: 3,720 Group: Admin Member #109 Joined: April 25, 2005	I said that during the Deanna season about his wife "abandoning" him and his son. Whatever, it's over...NEXT!
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chairo	Mar 4 2009, 05:48 PM Post #16
Opinionated Posts: 5,733 Group: Admin Member #317 Joined: August 14, 2005	Chris was on Ellen and said that Molly and Jason will be on tomorrow. But you are right ... their 15 minutes of fame has run it's course. The show is over and now it's time to move on. Can u believe we actually agree on this LOL
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