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ART Talk BB 9 4/27; Finale
Topic Started: Apr 27 2008, 07:35 PM (793 Views)
lpatrick	Apr 27 2008, 07:35 PM Post #1
No longer MIA Posts: 1,884 Group: Writer Member #321 Joined: August 15, 2005	Who's going to win??? Talk about tonight's finale in here.
	Our greatest glory consists not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall...Confucius


Debbie	Apr 27 2008, 08:01 PM Post #2
ARTsy Posts: 616 Group: Member Member #255 Joined: July 19, 2005	Yikes! Congrats DFLEM I didn't think you had a snowball's chance at the begining. A very lopsided vote too.



daddyslittledefect	Apr 27 2008, 08:49 PM Post #3
ART Fixture Posts: 449 Group: Member Member #814 Joined: August 3, 2006	Well Im happy
	"for what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul?"


dfleminator	Apr 27 2008, 09:14 PM Post #4
Dr. Horrible Posts: 4,810 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: February 13, 2005	I told you so!



chairo	Apr 27 2008, 09:38 PM Post #5
Opinionated Posts: 3,742 Group: Writer Member #317 Joined: August 14, 2005	As I said, I really didn't care who won, but I was surprised America voted James as the jury winner. I would have been bummed if it had been Sheila though. I think Jen cost Ryan the game. I also believe from things said in the past makes Sheila believe Adam will give her some money. And Natalie thinks they will go into business together as does Ryan. I wonder how many of these promises Adam will keep When he discovers he lost his job I wonder if he will go through with his plans to donate money to his fav charity foundation? I wonder if we will ever know.
	Always dream the impossible dream and reach for the unreachable star


lpatrick	Apr 27 2008, 09:56 PM Post #6
No longer MIA Posts: 1,884 Group: Writer Member #321 Joined: August 15, 2005	All I can say about this season, is thank God it's over. And a big congrats to Dflem.
	Our greatest glory consists not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall...Confucius


daddyslittledefect	Apr 28 2008, 07:51 AM Post #7
ART Fixture Posts: 449 Group: Member Member #814 Joined: August 3, 2006	I wasn't surprised at all that James won the jury vote. America loved him the best Im sure. But I do still hope that Adam donates money to his favorite foundation
	"for what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul?"


funnygirl	Apr 28 2008, 09:29 AM Post #8
Easin' into summertime... Posts: 3,517 Group: Writer Member #109 Joined: April 25, 2005	James and Matty were the only two members of the jury who didn't act like asshats during the roundtable discussions. Can Chelsia be any more of a Bitter Betty? How ridiculious can you be? Did you notice James could not scoot far enough away from her. You would think she would have learned from her earlier mistake. I may have agreed with Joshua on some of his points, but he acted like such a bitch about it, he lost me. I loved the reaction of the jury when Julie told them about the fan votes. Sheila actually thought she had a chance. THe woman ranted for 5 minutes and contradicted herself about 15 times.
	Those who can't laugh at themselves, leave the job to others. Live your life in such a way that when your feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says... 'Oh, crap...she's awake!!�


chairo	Apr 28 2008, 09:54 AM Post #9
Opinionated Posts: 3,742 Group: Writer Member #317 Joined: August 14, 2005	I am stunned that Sheila came in second. I figured it would be dead last. Since the jury had no idea this little windfall was possible I don't think anything they did was to influence the results. I liked what Josh had to say. He is a little prissy but that's just him. Like Adam not being able to speak English is just him. And Ryan loving Jen is just him. Josh was entertaining and I loved the video of him pretending to cry to get Adam's sympathy ... everyone learned early Adam was a sucker for tears. In retrospect I believe getting paired up with Chelsia ruined James' game. He actually seems like a nice enough person, but he didn't appear that way inside the house. Did Chel bring out the worst in him or was it just game play? If he had bonded more with the boys maybe we'd have seen a different outcome Having said all that, IF the next batch of HG's are all teeny boppers who talk about nothing but sex and drugs I don't think I'll really care to watch it. This was undoubtedly the worst season of BB since year one...which was pretty bad. They know the Dr. Will, Kaysar and Janelle and EvelDick seasons were the best so why not go for more personalities of that type. I never actually heard one person say they REALLY liked even one of these players. Neil had potential but because of Amanda we'll never know. As much as some people in the past got on my nerves, I'd have rather seen more of them and less of Sheila and Natalie types. Chelsia and her nudity and gutter mouth was a poor pick. But then the guy who walked around with his hands down in his pants all season and lost his job due to stupidity, won the game ... so who knows.
	Always dream the impossible dream and reach for the unreachable star


funnygirl	Apr 28 2008, 11:49 AM Post #10
Easin' into summertime... Posts: 3,517 Group: Writer Member #109 Joined: April 25, 2005	That's what was so great about Julie revealing to the jurors about the vote. They were all inwardly groaning. I'm thinking had they known that this was coming the round-table discussion would have gone a lot differently and Sheila wouldn't have even come CLOSE!
	Those who can't laugh at themselves, leave the job to others. Live your life in such a way that when your feet hit the floor in the morning, Satan shudders & says... 'Oh, crap...she's awake!!�


Debbie	Apr 28 2008, 01:52 PM Post #11
ARTsy Posts: 616 Group: Member Member #255 Joined: July 19, 2005	Was anybody else as suprised as I was at the lopsided vote? For BB10 I suggest a more diverse group, NO TWISTS, Keep the plastic dishes ( the clanging of silverware on the bowls during BB8 covered up half of what they were saying) and how about a longer final show. It kind of seemed like 10 pounds of stuff in a 5 pound bag.



Diamond Girl	Apr 28 2008, 03:52 PM Post #12
ART Appreciator Posts: 65 Group: Member Member #1,209 Joined: December 27, 2006	I was very much disappointed in the finale. I already knew Josh was a little bitch, Matt was out to see what he could get from the winner, Chelsia is and probably will forever be a bitch, James kicked Chelsia to the curb, Natalie is still delusional, Sheila is crazy, etc. From what I've been reading out and about online, Sheila's son chose to attend a concert and didn't even show up for the finale. For as long as this show as been around now, I would have hoped that they would have a two hour reunion show after the one hour finale, just like Survivor does. I would have liked to have heard from Alex, Amanda, Parker and the others. I was not surprised James won the $25,000 as America's Juror, but I wasn't one of those who voted for him because I can't stand the guy. He was Grodner's favorite and, from what I understand, people couldn't get online to cbs.com to vote because of all the traffic. Apparently, they used some type of free online voting service. At any rate, I'm not so much happy that Adam won as that dfleminator won! Congrats! I hope Grodner is fired, although I know she won't be. Let's hope BB10 isn't as bad as this season was. I know I won't be tuning in if it is.



daddyslittledefect	Apr 28 2008, 05:56 PM Post #13
ART Fixture Posts: 449 Group: Member Member #814 Joined: August 3, 2006	in all fairness.. they did have to put this season together rather quickly. lets hope they do a better job next time.
	"for what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul?"


juders	Apr 28 2008, 10:46 PM Post #14
ART Appreciator Posts: 64 Group: Member Member #2,838 Joined: February 19, 2008	I've said this before, but really, what sane person would sign up for BB after this? Thinking you could be stuck in a house with 13 other people who were that moronic? No thanks! I'm just glad that Ryan didn't propose. I hope he's watched the tapes and dumbed that stupid bitch. Anyone who would call their boyfriend a racist on national tv to get further in a game shouldn't have a boyfriend.



chairo	Apr 29 2008, 06:48 AM Post #15
Opinionated Posts: 3,742 Group: Writer Member #317 Joined: August 14, 2005	Okay, I will take the less popular view. I do not see what Jen did as being all that bad. It is a game and people did a lot worse than that. I think Jen was just trying to explain why Ryan was upset she was with Parker. I imagine he'd have been upset no matter who she had been paired with. I am not sure it had been her intention to call him a raciest. I think she was saying the fact Parker was black, and she had dated blacks in the past made it worse. It sure wasn't anywhere near Adam calling the kids he works with RETARDS and he went on to win the game. We need to put things into persepective. What Adam said was much more offensive than anything Jen said. The facts are that people can object to mixed race dating without being raciest and I am one of those people. My closest friend is black and she feels the same way about blacks and whites dating. I don't judge them and I don't think Ryan did either, he just didn't approve of it. However I also have two friends who are handicapped. Both in wheel chairs, both blind, and both hard to understand. I have two other friends who are younger brothers both born with brain damage. There is no way under the sun I would refer to these people as retards. I don't care if you try to make it sound better by saying you call them that to their face ... it is WRONG and uncaring and that is Adam the winner of BB.
	Always dream the impossible dream and reach for the unreachable star


Debbie	Apr 29 2008, 07:04 AM Post #16
ARTsy Posts: 616 Group: Member Member #255 Joined: July 19, 2005	Adam also promised 100K to the after school program he spoke of and a new car and starting a business with like three people....does he realize after taxes he won't really have 500K? Ryan did mention taves in one of their conversations in the last days. I just think Adam has a soft side but he really is a jerk. (No pun intended)



chairo	Apr 29 2008, 08:15 AM Post #17
Opinionated Posts: 3,742 Group: Writer Member #317 Joined: August 14, 2005	I just asked a tax guy and he said that what Adam will probably walk away with is about $375,000. Still a nice chunk of change but does anyone believe Adam will still give away $100,000 to an organization that fired him due to his 'retard' remarks. Adam and Ryan were talking about investing 100-150 thousand to start a business ... that leaves Adam with 125-175 thousand. He promised to start a business with Nat, but don't know if an amount was mentioned. He promised a business with Matty. He promised a business with Sheila and he promised one with James ... this guy will be lucky to take home for himself 1,000 ... however I don't believe for a minute he'll honor any of these deals. EvelDick on the other hand did exactly what he said he would do with his winnings. Bought Danielle a car even though she won $50,000. Took both his son and Dani on trips to Europe. Paid off the lease on the place he was living ... helped his mom etc. Everything he said he'd do he has done. However, ED being ED, he has also received a lot of job offers and will probably make that much a year until his 15 minutes are over. With Adam impossible to understand with out sub titles, I doubt he will get those kinds of offers. I actually see James being the ED of this year because he is so different .. don't think he'll have the success ED has had and continues to have, but he might get a little more out of this in the near future Adam is sure he and Ryan will be asked back to an AllStar game. I'd LOVE to see ED on that game also and teach them a thing or two about playing this game. Of course ED would imitate Adam's talk until it would drive me crazy.
	Always dream the impossible dream and reach for the unreachable star


Debbie	Apr 29 2008, 10:34 AM Post #18
ARTsy Posts: 616 Group: Member Member #255 Joined: July 19, 2005	LOL! Chairo, the vision of ED berating Adam.....I will be laughing to myself half the day LMAO!!!!!



juders	Apr 29 2008, 01:42 PM Post #19
ART Appreciator Posts: 64 Group: Member Member #2,838 Joined: February 19, 2008	I wasn't comparing Adam's comment to Jen's comment. They are totally unrelated. And when Jen said the words out right to Shelia "Ryan is a racist," that is totally different then disagreeing with inter-racial dating.



dfleminator	Apr 29 2008, 04:09 PM Post #20
Dr. Horrible Posts: 4,810 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: February 13, 2005	Seriously? There's nothing wrong with his girlfriend telling people ON NATIONAL TELEVISION that he is a racist? Hello!!!! That is wrong on so many levels! Absolutely disgusting behavior! I don't see how you can possibly say there's nothing wrong with that!



daddyslittledefect	Apr 29 2008, 10:50 PM Post #21
ART Fixture Posts: 449 Group: Member Member #814 Joined: August 3, 2006	I agree with dflem completely. its one thing if it was just two strangers... but for the his girlfriend to say that it is wrong. Even if it was just gameplay... i personally wouldn't forgive my other if he told people on national tv that i was racist in order to further himself.
	"for what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul?"


fallindownblue	May 1 2008, 12:45 AM Post #22
ART Connoisseur Posts: 157 Group: Member Member #312 Joined: August 12, 2005	From what I gather,from the people who watch the feeds, Ryan was saying some pretty disgusting things himself that you'd think would send a girlfriend running in the other direction. So they're a match.



daddyslittledefect	May 1 2008, 07:20 AM Post #23
ART Fixture Posts: 449 Group: Member Member #814 Joined: August 3, 2006	What did he say? I certaining havent heard anything.
	"for what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul?"


dfleminator	May 1 2008, 08:28 AM Post #24
Dr. Horrible Posts: 4,810 Group: Admin Member #2 Joined: February 13, 2005	BTW, to clarify... some research was done elsewhere with regards to Adam's job. His organization disbanded just before the show started... he was not fired.



chairo	May 1 2008, 10:36 AM Post #25
Opinionated Posts: 3,742 Group: Writer Member #317 Joined: August 14, 2005	Glad to hear Dflem, but there was an article on the NET about the time Adam made the retard comment, about CBS or whatever the network BB is on, issuing an apology to the organization and they responded that Adam was fired. This was from his local area newspaper. So somebody has been running fictional news articles or something
	Always dream the impossible dream and reach for the unreachable star


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